In this conversation, the two former Navy SEALs talk about the challenges of transitioning from elite military service to civilian life, the ongoing need for purpose and community among veterans, and the mission of Beyond the Brotherhood—a nonprofit founded by Jimmy May to help retiring and former SEALs find meaningful next chapters through screening, training, networking, and support.

Bill Brown, a longtime organizer of the NYC SEAL Swim, shares why he supports the organization and how the annual swim event continues the spirit of service and brotherhood.